Looks like Home Depot had a sale onlighting fixtures....by 3 different styles, get 3 more for free.
Looks like Home Depot had a sale onlighting fixtures....by 3 different styles, get 3 more for free.
Panos success has more to do with LOCATION than any other reason. The Elmwood strip is successful because it is NOT A BLAND SUBURBAN STRIP MALL. Tearing down a piece of the fabric that makes this street unique is like biting the hand that feeds you.
Uhhggg. It sticks out like a sore thumb and it's positioned way too close to the sidewalk.
It looks as if they picked it up from a strip mall and dropped it in there. It totally destroys the character of the neighborhood.
I don't think anyone here is against the progress of this structure from the little "cape cod" buidling which still sits out behind this. The bigger issue was the intentional neglect of a buidling to the point of saying it needs to come down for the expansion to only be replaced with 5 or 6 parking spots.
+1 for Elmwood when it could have been a +2. If you include the precident this sets for knocking down buildings for surface parking, this can easily become a big negative. The neighborhood needs a parking strategy as a whole, not on a buisness by buisness basis.
Has anyone here actually presented a way to fix the parking "issue" I personally never have a problem, because I'm not lazy, but there are really only a few choices. Parking ramp, parking lot, diagonal parking, parallel parking. The street is pretty tight in this area, so I'm really not sure what you could do. I'm all ears.
Has anyone on this site actually owned an old house and tried to preserve it? I have an 80 year old North Buffalo home. I'm trying to restore and match some elements of this home and it's not cheap. Even something as simple as wood windows are almost double the price of vinyl. I can't expect someone to invest a bunch of money into restoring a house in that area when he certainly wont get that money back. At best he would be able to rent it out and risk it getting F'd up. Who would be able to afford the rent? Do you expect Pano to take a loss just because he has a successful business?
Wow - 43 comments about how this building will affect the look of Elmwood and 7 comments about how the city animal shelter is drowning and too small to meet the needs of the animals in this city. Where are our priorities? Everyone shoud be aghast that the city of Buffalo has their shelter under the streest and sanitation department (garbage) and so severely small and understaffed that it can't adequately meets the needs of the animals. How proud can this city be when they are more worried about the cosmetics of Elmwood avenue?
Pano is just a dick. He treats his empolyees horrible, and his ignorant business plan will eventually come home to roost.
On the flip side, it is not that bad of an addition, please paint the back half, and go see steel crazy about more subtle signage.
I do have to say though, that i still will NEVER eat there again.
I think it will be a great addition to Elmwood.. but it is a shame how little if any of the actual new construction is on the footprint of the former Atwater.. that's my plug, he got what he wanted... more parking. He could have built this and left he Atwater standing.
Can we please hold the sentimental violin music about Pano's rise to success? Yes he runs a good business, and yes I wish him well, and yes, he did a stupid and unneccessary thing by tearing down the Atwater House. He could have expanded and enhanced his business without doing that. So, let's give him some credit, and also a little shame for sending out a loud signal that demolition by neglect is a good strategy for doing business in Buffalo.
I love the throwaway mention of the Atwater House in the last sentence. Oh, yeah, the house he neglected and tore down for dry wall and neon.
people here are missing a few key facts
1. Pano's did not support or oppose the the hotel. we attended the city run meetings just like the rest of our nieghbors. we had qustions just like everyone had about us.
2.The owner of "home of the hits" retired. Their closing had nothing to do with the hotel. Blame the ipod if you need a scapegoat.
3. the misnamed "attwater house" wasn't ever on a single historical registry. It was an old house with a tower. i can drive you around and show you dozens in the area that actualy are beautiful. If it matters to you so much get to work on protecting those and stop cryng about one thats been gone for almost 2 years.
4. to the people that complain about my family's ruthless quest to turn a "profit", keep 115 people fully employed, and not go out of buisness i say this. bring me your paycheck. do you live in a vacuum? how do do you make your money? i know how i make mine. My father, my brother my awesome employes and myself get up and feed the west side 7 days a week. it's straight work. no b.s.. And the people that think that it's a rotting house that makes the EV great will never get it , and will never make me feel ashamed about what we've done.
The Building looks great, it gives the street and feeling of being alive and vibrant. I wasnt sold on it in the beginning with the two toned brick, but the awnings, lighting and sign, I dont think it could look better.
If you have complained about this you are insane......This building will attract praise and interest from people outside of the city visiting from now on
bryndle here again...so before you shoot the b.s. Edward Atwater retired in 1894 with is wife and moved into "the atwater house" nobody knows who owned the house, and to this day nobody knows who built it. Edward Atwater never even owned the house. He rented. That's a fact! So why all the fuss? Just wondering. And in the event that your bicycle can't get you from here to there...buy a car, I hear Pano is hiring!
Wow, talk about some hard feelings , judging by the negative posts and 1 stars to the good rational posts. The last sentence and the cry baby posts came 'this close' to making me no longer want to visit this site. Really guys, it actually looks great, dont go there, thats fine, but grow up, have some cheese with your whine, and get over it already. 1 star away...
I think that this looks awesome. All other things aside - you can support a thriving Buffalo business or you can cry over a demolished house - your choice. ;-) Great job Pano!
After what they did with the Atwater House, I will never set foot in there again.
wow, people are just ridiculous. I don't know why it is such a big deal that he had a house torn down for more parking or expansion or if he just thought it was a fugly house. We can't save every single structure that has ever been built in Buffalo. This is really a gorgeous edition to the elmwood strip. If we occasionally have to get rid of the old to make way for the new, there is nothing wrong with that. And why do the preservationists only step in when something is set to be demolished and then complain about it endlessly??????????? If there is a structure that deserves to be saved, they should be taking proactive steps. I think that new builds like this are necessary to help keep Buffalo and especially an area like elmwood competitive with the rest of the area. Anyone else see a similarity between the facade of panos and the new section of galleria mall? And how successful is galleria mall lately? Hmmm maybe people in Buffalo do like nice new things regardless of all the naysayers think. I think that a lot of people do appreciate our rich history and amazing historic architecture but some change is necessary. Personally I like the idea of a changing facade around the city, it helps to keep it more interesting, so great job Panos!
The whole story of demoltion by neglect is amyth. I lived in that house in 1995-1998 (and agin in 2003-04)right after my father bought it and it was a dump before we bought it and a dump when we tore it down. the only time we "neglected" it was after the decision to tear it down was made in 2004. Obviously if you own a building that is vacant and you plan to tear it down you're not going to pour more money into it. we spent thousands on that building in the ten years we owned it.
As for the new building, please, give it a chance. it's not even done yet. And yes it looks very "new" and it "sticks out" .Guess why- IT IS NEW. Let a buffalo winter break it in a little. giveit a chance to age. to sink in. Remember at one time or another every buildind was new. Think of it as a new baseball mit. Also, it is no closer to the street than it was before and further than alot of our neighbors. The EVA was instumental in the design and about the only thing we chose was sign. Which by the way will not always be that bright. Its not neon it's LED. We lit it that bright initialy to draw attention to our reopening. Relax people it a restaurant. lets worry about the eastside, our schools system, the waterfront, job loss, ect. hope to see you all ,preservationists too, at the reopening.
"If you are not for progress in Buffalo then you are against it" wow... the world isn't so black or white. There could have been development + preservation. I was never against Pano or his desire to expand his business. In fact I used to go there quite often. But if you look at the former building's footprint and compare it to where his expansion was planned, it is obvious that the 'need' to demolish the Atwater house isn't because it was in the way of this building but because it was in the way of his parking desires.
That brings up a different questions about urban neighborhoods and how to treat parking. Should parking be dealt with in the suburban model where each business acquires and controls its own parking. This is the model that has create Niagara Falls boulevard types of development and our current downtown. A downtown where 50+ percent of the land area is dedicated to parking but yet everyone still complains there isn't enough parking.
If cars are going to be the mode of transport by choice and policy, then parking needs to become an centrally planned land use. Otherwise everyone puts up their little fiefdoms of control and the very thing that created a vibrant urban neighborhood (its mixed uses and density) are in jeopardy because there isn't a plan for parking.
I blame the city \ Elmwood Village for refusing to take the initiative and coming up with a strategy that would bring in people (and their cars) into the EV without destroying what makes the city great.
My friends and I drove to Pano's all the time during college. Not once did we ever park in their parking lot. Not because it was full but because it was easier and more convenient to just park along a side street and walk. Never had to worry and get frustrated because someone's stupid Hummer is taking up 3 spots. I don't think we were the only ones that did that. You know what, we still went there, not a big deal. We need to learn as a culture that walking a block or two isn't some a horrible prospect that we must 'deal' with. Lord knows with approx 66.3% of our population over 20 is overweight or obese (CDC Stat) we could use the exercise. Maybe it is time to start designing our cities in a way that promotes (maybe even forces a little bit) a healthier lifestyle, instead of convenience (aka laziness).
The ratio of old houses to expanding businesses in Buffalo is way too heavy on the former... go Pano's.
Looks nice! Way to go.
As much as many people might have issues with Pano's MO, he is the type of businessman Buffalo needs more of. The man had a plan, saw a way to get it done (despite city red-tape and a small vocal minority in opposition)..and look what we have: a completed project that's right on schedule.
People who oppose this seem to be highly offended by Pano's wish to expand parking on the property. As much as many of us wish that cars would just go away tomorrow, this ain't gonna happen. Buffalo is a car town where, save a few nice pockets left in the city, a majority of the middle class and wealthy live in the suburbs, therefore drive their cars everywhere for everything.
Opposing too much EASY parking on a pedestrian-friendly street like Elmwood is a good thing, but opposing parking altogether is a dangerous game rooted in idealistic urban planning orthodoxy. For the larger businesses, there has to be SOME off-street parking provided since a great deal of people who patronize the businesses get there by car.
To suburbanites, Elmwood serves the role as an ambassador of the city's historic residential neighborhoods. Maintaining a delicate balance between accessibility and aesthetic integrity is key. If there is nowhere to park, customers will go somewhere more accessible. Notice how the Lexington Co-op has a small parking lot too. Any business that sells useful stuff in high volume will need parking. Much of the aforementioned urban planning orthodoxy (that many commenters on this site unquestionably espouse) is based on the successes of very large cities with thriving urban cores and well-functioning rapid transit systems. In Buffalo it's a different ballgame, we can't expect the largely suburban-based middle class to just give up their cars without an equally convenient way of getting around.
Pano did what he needed to do given the circumstances. Until the city can successfully implement a well-planned municipal parking scheme, larger businesses on thriving streets like Elmwood will be left to go it alone when it comes to making sure their customers can find a place to park.
yeah, it looks great...and that neon sign is going to flash like a homing device in the eyes of all the its-sunday-so-let's-be-adventurous-and-go-into-the-city-for-some-greasy-diner-food-and-be-seen suburbanites like a shiny object dangling in front of a cat. give the man all the props he deserves, but see if you remember all that good will and well-wishes when those suburbanites and their SUVs are backing up traffic down elmwood as they coast at ten miles an hour looking for the nonexistent parking spots.
viva progress without proper planning.
If it isn't mixed-use, built to the curb, with a bike rack, it just won't do!
we can always hope for an act of god or a fire or an earthquake or whatever, feed those fat college students...
I saw it Friday night and (forgive me) all I could think of is how that sign looks ridiculous (in size) for its location. Flush to the bldg, it's sized as if at the end of a long block not directly across from multi-use buildings on a fairly narrow street. Interesting cross-fade concept — disproportionately executed. sigh
Very inviting and with an obvious touch of showmanship. How could we expect any different from Pano's? Expect this joint to be packed. EXCEPT for the naysayers and preservationists whe vowed never to step foot in PANO'S again!! Perhaps the Elmwood fanatics will see that perhaps there is something better than what they would like to hold on to ...oh ya..AT SOMEONE ELSE'S EXPENSE!!
Much better than the Atwater house. However, the sign is obnoxious. People need to chill on this site. It is good to mix in the old with the new. Makes for a more dynamic environment. Area is much more vibrant now!
Good example of Pano living the American dream. He started with a little hut selling steak and eggs for $3.99 a plate 20 years ago and now this.
Congrats to Pano. Give the man some credit.
Calling it the Atwater House is like calling your house the Nussbaumer House.
I'd like my house to be called "House of 'Illin' Like The Rooster"
The outer decor suggests ellegant dining inside.
The sign suggests...
The sign shouts out LO U D.
and to think...so many anti-development libs were against this, now we have a business/restaurant that turns heads, and will make visitors think twice before bashing Buffalo...like so many others said you can't save every building, and if tearing down an old house means new progress and business like this, embrace it.
If you are not for progress in Buffalo then you are against it. Great job Panos!
This is a great project and I commend Pano's for doing it. For those of you whining about some dilapidated house that was torn down, who cares, it's addition by subtraction. Panos is beautifying the street, much like ciminelli wanted to do when he had plans to build a mixed-use hotel, which would have torn down one of the most ugly row of homes on the street. Interesting you drive by all of these homes now, and they're all for sale. I just will never understand why alot of you think these homes are important to keep in lieu of actual progress and significant private dollars being spent. As for the sign, I think it's great.
the need for parking is a myth,
go to any city, one with a vibrant neighborhood culture, and you will see the pointlessness of your theory,
places on elmwood should be able to sustain themselves with the foot traffic of local consumers, if there is a demand for parking it's because the EV can't really sustain the things it prays for, or people just don't walk far enough....Pano get's his parking because he fought for it, not sure he needed it though,
so the exclusionary BRO disciples now want suburbanites to come to Panos? Some of these posts show the lack of cohesion in the BRO point of view
"the survivors of species are not the strongest, or most intelligent, they are those most adaptable to change" - Chuck D.
The only reason one could say this building looks out of place, is by comparing it to the other buildings on the street. Living on the block, across the street in fact, seeing the new Pano's everyday, I have enjoyed watching it develop into quite an attractive building. Admittedly, when I first saw the faux brick walls without the awnings and lights, I was a little concerned. Seeing it all come together, the results are quite impressive. It looks like a successful business, in the heart of a blossoming city. One can only hope the other land owners in the area will take the steps to improve the curb appeal of their own properties. One only needs to look at the bright green stripe adorning the porch of the house across the street, to see what I am talking about. As for the sign, it is fresh, different, and engaging. Pano's, as a result of this expansion, will be able to provide more jobs, and bring more people to the Elmwood Strip which should be good for all of us. Thanks.
"After what they did with the Atwater House, I will never set foot in there again." NOT TO WORRY...NOT MUCH OF A LOSS!
I think anyone outside Buffalo would laugh over the "Atwater" house stink, and that people will not patronize this restaurant because of the loss of this "landmark."
BuffFan08, yeah the people who were against the Hotel were not the same as those against the Elmwood Hotel. The hotel had pretty much universal support from the area except for the few people directly behind the site that were worried about traffic and the blockage of light from their yards.. TOTALLY different argument and group than those trying to save what was a very unique structure in the city.
Those houses that wanted to get torn down for the hotel are bland and a dime a dozen in Buffalo. No preservationists that I knew of actually wanted to see them saved. No Urban designer disliked the proposed new building. It would have been a great project and better than what is there now for the street. The Atwater was a totally different situation. There are no other homes \ structures like it in the city. Sorry, it was quite unique, even if the inside was trashed.
On my next visit I'll be stopping at Boron House, then a little sojourn to Kazely House as well as Gellman House, followed by a nice aperitivo at Majewksi House, followed by cake at Janosky House, perhaps followed by a session of guitar hero at the Allen House.
Gimme a break Phrank...its a f-ing restaurant. Pano is a great community figure despite what you hippies think. And hes a great guy. Cheer for the people who dont take a dollar from the govt handouts and he actually invests millions in our little village
My last few posts are of the 5-star variety. This 1-star conspiracy will not stand...man.
Great job! Looks awesome! mjman4...are you being sarcastic when you criticize Pano's business plan? Please say "yes".
All this bitching about stars, I wrote three eloquent posts and I don't know if i got any stars? And, at 3:54am, that sign is pretty cool to look at!!!
I would think all the suburbanites piling into Panos would be a good thing. Maybe if they come down often enough they will see how great the city is and how much it has to offer and they will decide to move.
Thanks to Target for keeping it real. I believe in building preservation if it serves a valid purpose. You people in Buffalo are spoiled. I'd like all you naysayers to come and stroll around Niagara Falls for a day and see just how lucky you are that there is DEVELOPMENT occurring in your great city. Niagara Falls is teeming with beautiful, historical buildings that are absolutely useless to us. You can bet not a tear would be shed if a development company came and demolished these buildings to make way for new business. Unfortunately, the politicians got it backwards and decided to demolish successful businesses in the 70's to build the convention center. The idea of the hotel driving businesses out of Elmwood broke my heart. We lost Don Apparel, Mondo Video, and Home of the Hits and for what? A hotel that was never built. That's the kind of development that Buffalo does not need. We need our businesses to survive and to attract not only locals but non-locals too. The point is, there needs to be decisions made to advance a city's momentum for continuous development. When Super Wal Mart moves in in the middle of the Elmwood Village, then you can start crying........
Great job! Looks awesome! mjman4...are you being sarcastic when you criticize Pano's business plan? Please say "yes".
wow that was fast. it doesnt look too bad, it defenately increased the density of that part of the street. now if only the hotel was built. imangine how great this block would look.
orange building with black awnings and bathroom wall sconces...OMG its wonderful. Also HOUSE FOR SALE, Elmwood village.
Pleasantly suprised. Looks great. Screams Toronto, Yorkville. Sign too. Good job, Pano!
sure it is not something you would want on top of your christmas tree. It brings a strong descriptive quality to the street and i am mainly interested in how other projects can feed off it. There are enough resources to almost anticipate an even greater change for this neighborhood. perhaps an applebee's? j/k
The new restaurant looks fabulous...I love the ultra chic in the city look...It raises the bar for all the competing restaurants and bars in the city. I can't wait to check it out the next time I'm in town.
hmm....I'm troubled by the notion given by a few in this comment stream that the inhabitants of the EV themselves can't sustain the village economy (with some outside consumption, of course - but I'm hearing it's perhaps dependent on outsiders coming in the majority).
I think there's a deeper issue if this notion is true. I won't bother pissing people off and go there too much, but maybe somebody can comment. None of my family considered it a destination (as opposed to store / restaurant here or there) and I don't think the inhabitants want tour busses tooling around. So what am I missing? If the EV locals can't support the village then there probably shouldn't be a 'village'. In that case it would just be a street, like Union Road or Sheridan Drive.
kjthomas what a shame, people with money to spend are going to come into the city and spend, yes what a shame buffalo is not a city that can survive merely on public transportation or bikes or walking. And have you ever been to another city?????? buffalo hardly has any traffic given our lack of good public transportation. Since when is elmwood and the rest of buffalo only for those living in the actual city? Elmwood is successful because it draws people from all over western new york for its restaurants and shops. Take away the suv toting suburbanites and would we still have the same elmwood?
If it looks like a Cheesecake Factory then that can't be a bad thing considering they are doing ridiculous business at the Galleria. I cannot believe how popular those new restaurants are.
i have not seen it in person but in the pictures it reminds me of the chees3cake factory at the galleria. the colors and awnings are similar. i will have to go see for myself but from here it looks rather suburban.
Looks great, kind of reminds me of some buildings in Boulder C.O. Yes it would have been cool to preserve or move (if Possible) the Atwater House, but I'm not really going to cry over this one. Can't wait to see it in person.
Panos is beautifying the street, much like ciminelli wanted to do when he had plans to build a mixed-use hotel, which would have torn down one of the most ugly row of homes on the street.
It was Savarino, not Ciminielli who had the hotel plans that were quashed largely by the efforts of a selfish store owner who had cheap rent and is ironically no longer there and Pano himself who vindictively helped crush the project.
Very inviting and with an obvious touch of showmanship. How could we expect any different from Pano's? Expect this joint to be packed.
some practical questions about the pano's addition (i'm a recent grad of CC who's at ND for law school, fully intending to come back to Buffalo, last I saw it the front was covered in scaffolding)
whats the interior like now? same as before, or is it expanded into a 2-floor dining area? I'm hoping it expanded, I love Pano's especially on a Saturday morning or Sunday afternoon...it was always packed, so any expansion would be great!
its a little sad to see the patio dissappear for the summer, but much more practical and dnot too much of a detraction
p.s. can't wait to get back to buffalo for break in october! i'm missing real wings and labbatts!
by the way I think the locals of the EV can sustain the village economy...
and to bhorvath, people go into buisness to prosper not to "sustain" themselves. Go ask anyone who owns a shop on elmwood if they want to loose ANY of their non-local buisness. this is still a city. not a country club and suburbanites are just as entitled to your "village" as you are.
Looks great, kind of reminds me of some buildings in Boulder C.O. Yes it would have been cool to preserve or move (if Possible) the Atwater House, but I'm not really going to cry over this one. Can't wait to see it in person.
and to bhorvath, people go into buisness to prosper not to "sustain" themselves. Go ask anyone who owns a shop on elmwood if they want to loose ANY of their non-local buisness. this is still a city. not a country club and suburbanites are just as entitled to your "village" as you are.
"Wizard, No one could find parking for panos when it was half the size, of course they need a parking lot. People come from all over WNY to come to this place. Again, why? "
I said the EV area is a "regional destination", meaning when people from all over come to visit the AK, or Delaware Park, or Buff State for several hours they'll likely get hungry and want to stop somewhere to eat. Panos has a long established reputation as being "the place" to eat in that area, especially for people who may not be very familar with the neighborhood, they'll most likely know about Panos, just as Spot Coffee is "the place" to grab a cup of coffee and people watch the youthful Elmwood scene.
As a daytime urban experience, The EV setting is unique to WNY (just as Allentown and Chippewa are in terms of night life), therefore people from all over the region come to Elmwood.
"Panos is beautifying the street, much like ciminelli wanted to do when he had plans to build a mixed-use hotel, which would have torn down one of the most ugly row of homes on the street. Interesting you drive by all of these homes now, and they're all for sale"
The Hotel was not demolishing houses for a surface lot up to the street. All parking for the hotel was under it or hidden out back of it. It was a wonderful project and a shame to see it not happen.
I eat ragularlly across the street and never really have any issues parking. not sure why those going to Panos do. People will walk a city block through a mall parking lot but not an actual city block with stores etc on it. A tad rediculus.
Again thanks Panos for investing. No thanks on knocking down a Medina Sandstone porch and tower for 6 parking spaces.
As for old houes....but some vinyl windows in. I did for my 102 year old home.
All this bitching about stars, I wrote three eloquent posts and I don't know if i got any stars? And, at 3:54am, that sign is pretty cool to look at!!!
The population density of the Elmwood Village area is much lower than similar areas in other cities. Foot traffic created solely by the immediate neighborhood would not be enough to sustain the number of businesses that exist on Elmwood. In several of the other similar areas across the country you will find several parking ramps, similar to the one at Childrens Hospital, that enable more imported pedestrian traffic than when it is limited to on street parking. Adding the lots behind Avenue Pizza, and Coles, was a start, but more can be done. This is what happens when you have people living in doubles and single family homes instead of the apartment buildings you will find surrounding Elmwood Village like neighborhoods throughout the country. But you know what, I like my grass, and I like my garage. Cars were not the primary means of travel when Buffalo's street plan was created, and with all thats going on in the world, it would be nice if we could rely on them less in the future. People are what makes Elmwood thrive, the easier we make it for them to get here, the better off we are.
we did not knock down the house for parking. our new building is on the footprint of the old one. any parking we got was a bonus. also, does anybody here ever think about the elderly or those unalble to walk a city block when they care to dine out?
ok, agreed, it could use one more ramp somewhere, preferably underground
time to do that was in the BP art center build out....did they build parking spaces or is Buff State handling the need there?
It's just one street and some side half-blocks, so my gut tells me the local community should be sustaining it just fine, especially with the gentrification process that's been happening for the last twenty years or so, but like I said I can easily see another structure somewhere
the business community should drive the process though, it's their interest at stake,...making individual lots like pano did isn't really going to help the big picture, it just gives him a larger parcel that eventually will mean more cash for him, but I have no problem with pano since he is one of the few entrepreneurs effecting some change in the EV
Niko,
Don't dignify these complaints with a response. The fact that your restaurant is full every day and profitable is enough of a response. I remember when you guys had the tiny place down the street and I used to get served coffee while I was waiting for a stool to open... your service is excellent, as is the food. I'll be in soon to check out the new digs as will many, many others. Oh, and thanks for tearing down that rat infested eyesore.
Yeah it definately adds a good look to the street... I just don't know if that look, and the lack of 24/7 food really says Pano's to a lot of people.
Niko You don't need to defend yourselves against BR bloggers I agree completely with DJB-your family did a fantastic job starting with a small business, working hard every day, and building it up. Supporting yourselves, and employing others. Providing a service. Capitalism anyone?
MJ, I'm sure you just didn't think about it, but consider this: my grandmother can't walk more than 10 feet, even with her walker,not to mention the terror she feels when it's icy, and we can take her to Panos BECAUSE of the parking. Even a curb to the elderly is a huge obstacle.
Giving up on the 24-7 food is the second best thing they did for the neighborhood, after the development. And as bhorvath was nice enough to quote Chuck D. from Public Enemy: "the survivors of species are not the strongest, or most intelligent, they are those most adaptable to change" - Chuck D. Pano's has changed from its beginnings, and the new look solidifies that change.
And Yes, I know who was really quoted. I thought bhorvath was funny and rolled with it.
I'm torn. I like the building. The sign is growing on me. But I still can't bring myself to eat there again.
Seeing she can't walk more than two parking spots' hopfully those right by the door will be open for her. Maybe they can hanidcap mark the first 15 spots for those who unfortunatley have a disability. What ever happened to dropping people off at the door while the driver parked the car? I've done it with Scooters/wheelchairs etc for my grandparents.
But this is exciting. I can't wait until the buisnesses across the street all get there own parking too so they can flourish.
Here's a webcam that lets you view the exterior of Pano's 24/7: http://www.buffalowebcam.com/web/cam2
"the need for parking is a myth,
go to any city, one with a vibrant neighborhood culture, and you will see the pointlessness of your theory,
places on elmwood should be able to sustain themselves with the foot traffic of local consumers"
Not true. A lot of the business Elmwood gets comes from people who live outside the immediate neighborhood. Even within the neighborhood, residents will drive if their partiicular block isn't within quick walking distance. EV is a regional attraction. As someone pointed out above, there is not enough people nor density in the EV-proper to support all the business that's currently there. I can guarantee you that 80% of Spot Coffee's (Elmwood/Cleveland) clientele at any given time are suburban kids.
"Few men can stand prosperity, especially when it happens to someone else."
Wizard, No one could find parking for panos when it was half the size, of course they need a parking lot. People come from all over WNY to come to this place. Again, why?
why cant you not say nothing about the beautiful sAra Palin an keep talking about a spoon greasy place that sells overpriced scrambled eggs and drunks go to late there in the nite to eat frys an meat stuff. You gotta keep writing about this place all the time what about Sara an John huh!
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