A Kennedy Visits Buffalo

A Kennedy Visits Buffalo

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Caroline Kennedy was in town for a visit with our mayor yesterday. A possible choice to succeed US Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Kennedy's name has been mentioned along with that of Attorney General Andrew Cuomo (son of former New York Governor Mario Cuomo) and our own Byron Brown, among others.

Certainly, Kennedy has "been around politics" all of her life, which is to say she was born into a family of politicos and lived in the White House--neither of which would necessarily factor in to her ability to legislate.

Still, she has been active in politics recently, and much more visible in that vein, having worked on President-Elect Barack Obama's campaign. Her willingness to step out of a rather quiet existence and into that of politics shouldn't surprise anyone at this stage of her life, and once again, it wouldn't hurt New York State and Buffalo to have a high-profile personality filling our US Senate seat.

As for Cuomo - "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." He's doing a great job where he is, with a high approval rating, so why change?

It's all up to Governor David Paterson now. He'll appoint whomever he appoints, even joking about it on an NPR interview last week. Speaking to his NPR host, Paterson said something to the effect that he was happy to announce first on NPR that "the next New York Senator will be (long pause) a highly qualified individual." Well, then.

Finally, we're left with an odd feeling from the Kennedy visit, but not because of her presence. One local television news reporter put a microphone in Mayor Brown's face and asked him if Kennedy's visit made him "uncomfortable." Say what?

Of all the possible appointees, Brown has made it clear that he wasn't seeking the job, and he answered politely that he'd spoken to many of those who are being looked at by Paterson as possible Clinton replacements.

Uncomfortable? Is there anything to lose by having Mrs. Schlossberg (her married name) represent us, and like Clinton before her, aren't we happy she knows where Buffalo is?

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What Others Have To Say

  1. scooter

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    Dec 18th 2008, 10:17

    i like ms kennedy. and she would be a pretty high profile senator to have, although so was hillary.

    but can we get a senator that actually gives a shit about buffalo? and knows about specific problems and challenges that we face?

    we need help here.

  2. NorPark

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    Dec 18th 2008, 10:24

    Ask not what she can do for Buffalo, but what Buffalo can do for her.

  3. ToddS

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    Dec 18th 2008, 10:26

    Just hoping the next Senator makes us feel that (s)he is representing the interests of residents in central and western New York. I never felt like I knew for certain if Senator Clinton did any significant work on our behalf. Maybe she did, I just don't know. I hope the next Senator is able to demonstrate loud and clear that (s)he is working to improve the quality of life in our region.

  4. B-LoLawStu

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    Dec 18th 2008, 10:32

    Give the seat to a WNYer... We're under-represented as it is... My vote would be for Higgins.

  5. Hospitable

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    Dec 18th 2008, 11:34

    She'll do just as much for wny as a senator as she has already done in the past.. NOTHING.. i don't care what you're name is.. what a joke

  6. BloCity

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    Dec 18th 2008, 11:43

    Why anyone around here would want Caroline for the seat is beyond me. What a joke our politics have become, i mean shes famous, a public figure, could raise money... only one negative NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE... why is anyone here entertaining the idea!?!! It will be more of them same, probably worse. I dont know how she would help WNY more than Higgins, or even the whole state.

  7. dagner

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    Dec 18th 2008, 12:03

    Her appointment to the senate would be an act of political prostitution. Hers, Patterson's and the Democratic party. I thought the Obama election signaled an end to cronyism and was a celebration of achievement no matter the circumstances of your birth. Assigning Caroline would signal the opposite: those born to the right name just need to decide they want a hobby. Her family and friends can arrange it. Apparently Ms. Kennedy doesn't see the hypocrisy of her pursuit How selfish of her to think she is entitled to it.

    The rationalization is that she would bring money to the future senate campaigns and attention to our state in the Senate. As a registered Democrat I would prefer to reward the long time work of an elected official even if they cannot raise the cash Ms. K's name would. A Democrat who can't win in a NY statewide election is inept. The financial hardship of a meager campaign is preferable to the moral bankruptcy her appointment the would signify.

    Having to acquiesce to an uncrowned privileged "princess" will not engender rousing or genuine support from peers. The politicos who coo over her are patronizing and sexist.

    She wields more power by staying out of office and keeping her, until now, unsullied reputation as America's orphaned daughter. Pursuing the issues she cares about outside of office is something she is uniquely qualified to do. I encourage to do so.

  8. ExWNYer

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    Dec 18th 2008, 12:30

    Sorry, but because your name is Kennedy does not entitle you to a public office. Especially one as high profile and important as this one. If an actual election were held for this office, would she win against more qualified candidates? I doubt it. Certainly not on merit (she could buy her way in because of deep pockets). She has little experience. I agree that it would be great to see someone from WNY get the office. All that Obama pork spending for infrastructure that is being discussed will not come to Buffalo unless there is someone to help grab it. A Kennedy appointment here will not help.

  9. rb66

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    Dec 18th 2008, 12:32

    This is a joke! She won't do a damn thing for Western New York.

    Is the media going to attack Caroline Schlossberg-Kennedy like they attacked Sarah Palin about lack of experience and how much she spends on clothes?

    If she wasn't a Kennedy she wouldn't even get a sniff at this position.

    The beat goes on.

  10. whynot

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    Dec 18th 2008, 12:37

    I thought the Obama election signaled an end to cronyism and was a celebration of achievement no matter the circumstances of your birth

    This is one of the funniest things that I have ever read... Thanks for the laugh.

  11. ExWNYer

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    Dec 18th 2008, 12:44

    Sorry, but because your name is Kennedy does not entitle you to a public office. Especially one as high profile and important as this one. If an actual election were held for this office, would she win against more qualified candidates? I doubt it. Certainly not on merit (she could buy her way in because of deep pockets). She has little experience. I agree that it would be great to see someone from WNY get the office. All that Obama pork spending for infrastructure that is being discussed will not come to Buffalo unless there is someone to help grab it. A Kennedy appointment here will not help.

  12. ToughintheStreets

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    Dec 18th 2008, 12:48

    I have to agree with Hospitable and Blo city.

    "it wouldn't hurt New York State and Buffalo to have a high-profile personality filling our US Senate seat."

    How do you figure? Clinton was pretty high profile. Please explain to me why she was so great for Buffalo or NYS for that matter. Someone please tell me why this woman is qualified to be a senator? Shes famous? She can raise enough money to hold onto the seat in an election? She wrote a book?! By that reasoning we could put someone in a coma in that seat as long as they could fundraise. This is a perfect example of why our state and region are in the situations they are.

    The "aint broke don't fix it" line about cuomo sums it up perfectly. Why reward someone who has concrete experience and has done a good job in their current position with a higher position? What a novel idea huh? Promote the best candidate who you feel would do the best job. I've got another one. Fill that persons vacant position with someone else who you feel has been successful and will continue to be successful. Then you'd have two successful , experienced people in positions of power! Crazy right?! Promoting successful people with experience into higher positions of authority?!!!

    This is not a Cuomo plug, I just think that the governor should appoint someone that has the proper experience and and actually understands the problems that each region faces. Elections aren't always fair and don't always pit the best two candidates against each other. The governor has a chance to really put someone in there he believes will be able to do some real good. I'd hate to see him blow it.

    Being a Kennedy and writing a book about the Constitution only counts as experience if your trying to become a Fourth Grade Social Studies Teacher. One final note to Kennedy: "Listening" to Brown isn't going to give you a better handle on the problems facing Buffalo.

  13. whynot

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    Dec 18th 2008, 13:02

    I don't believe that we have a say or choice in this matter. We learned a valuable lesson from Hillary Clinton, that the Senate seat for the State of New York is up for sale to anyone with the right name, political connections, and fund raising potential. The Senator doesn't need to do anythinig while in office, as long as s/he is gaining notariaty and recognition for the state and for future office. Look at the parallels between Caroline Kennedy and Hillary Clinton:

    1) Both are being considered based on family name alone. 2) Neither has any real political experience, just experience by association 3) Both are/ were looking to further their own political agenda, not to represent the people of NY. 4) Both are politically advantageous because of their name and gender. 5) Neither one gives a rats ass about NY beyond the Metro NYC and Albany areas. 6) The people of NY could care less about all of this, as long as the seat goes to a Democrat.

    This state is screwed... with an increasing tax burden, decrease in tax revenue, and continuous cuts in service we are ensuring that businesses and people remain as far away as possible. Imagine how bad it would be if NYC wasn't viable.

  14. estreet

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    Dec 18th 2008, 13:36

    Just a pet peave I have about the lack of simple fact checking in the MSM as well as the blogosphere;

    Caroline Kennedy's name is Caroline kennedy. Not Caroline Schlossberg, not Caroline Schlossberg Kenendy, she did not assume her husband's name in any sense.

    On to the argument...no one is going to help WNY...period. If it were to be Brown or Higgins appointed they would not have the necessary time in office to get anything done before they were beaten in the next statewide election.

    Give me the republican that can beat Kennedy given the fact she would not only have the backing of Democrats but of moderate republicans like Bloomberg.

    Unitl we start righting our own political situations locally, let's not pretend we deserve a homer pick for a statewide national rep.

  15. scooter

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    Dec 18th 2008, 13:40

    Senator Higgins. Congressman Gaughn.

  16. mybuffalo

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    Dec 18th 2008, 13:52

    carpet bagger, complete joke if she is our senator but she will have to win 2 elections in the next 4 years either way.

  17. ddweitzel

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    Dec 18th 2008, 15:10

    I'm sorry, but the only one mentioning Bryon Brown for the Senate seat is Bryon Brown! He is going to continue to position himself for a congressional seat after the 2010 redistricting. He doesn't stand a chance in getting nominated because he can't win a statewide election in two years. Personally, it will depend obviously on the Gov and what his priority is. If he wants help with federal dollars he'll play ball with the Kennedy's. If he wants to limit Cuomo as a threat in the next election then he appoints him. Cuomo can beat him in a primary since he is a downstate dem that has already won a state wide election.

    My vote is that the Gov throws us a bone and appoints Higgins as Senator, he may not have the resources but he is respected throughout the state. Watch for Quinn trying to step in to his dad's old seat vacated by Higgins.

  18. AtwaterLouse

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    Dec 18th 2008, 16:41

    whynot and TitS put it very well about how bad a choice Ms. Kennedy would be, and about the state of the state.

    ddweitzel is right that Brown and his people are the only ones spreading the idea to gullible media that he was ever a serious contender.

    Artvoice reports this week that Gov. Paterson is mad about Brown's public relations campaign for the seat: '...our source says that Governor David Paterson, who will choose Clinton’s successor, is annoyed at Brown and his political team for continuing to insert his name in the mix. In addition to Kennedy - who visited Brown at City Hall on Wednesday - US Representatives Steve Israel of Long Island and Kirsten Gillibrand of Albany remain strong candidates. ...'

    If those are really the 3 finalists, I'd prefer Gillibrand.

    estreet - While I agree with you about why a WNY senator wouldn't matter anyway, and about the lousy fact check on Ms. Kennedy's name, your comment has a mistake too about Bloomberg being Republican.

    He's a life-long Democrat who changed from D to R when running for mayor then dropped it six years later. As the NY Times put it: 'June 19, 2007 ... Michael R. Bloomberg, a longtime Democrat who switched to the Republican Party to run for mayor of New York City in 2001, announced this evening that he is changing his party status and registering as an independent. ...'

  19. Arete

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    Dec 18th 2008, 16:47

    It seems to me that the best business people are often those who have grown up in a family business...the ones who have been surrounded, since birth, by a culture of experienced, successful professionals. It seems that an upbringing like hers might bring her far ahead on the learning curve of 'seasoned' politicians. It could be great. Imagine, spending a lifetime of experience thinking about how to do a job better.

  20. ToughintheStreets

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    Dec 18th 2008, 16:55

    How awesome would a debate between her and Fran Drescher be?

  21. Buffalo21stcentury

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    Dec 18th 2008, 16:57

    why would anyone care if a kennedy comes to Buffalo?

    Here is news....downstate put Hillary in and Hillary did S*H*I*T for Buffalo and WNY and upstate. All Clintons issues were national self serving interests not local interests!

    Whats a Kennedy going to do...she is going to pull the same crapola as Clinton working all national issues and shoving national issues down our throats when everyone in Buffalo, WNY and upstate wants local issues addressed.

    Anyone remember hillarys promises about understanding upstate...yup that lasted as long as she found her office, microphone and tv camera.

    we need local isssues!

  22. TheWhyNotGuy

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    Dec 18th 2008, 17:26

    "carpet bagger"

    If you don't like Caroline Kennedy, fine, but she's no carpet bagger. She moved from Georgetown to New York City in the mid 1960s, grew up there, went to school there, and has lived in Manhattan with her family for years.

    She owns property in Martha's Vinyard, and she no doubt spends a lot of time there. But her primary residence is in New York State and has been for much of her life.

  23. davvid

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    Dec 18th 2008, 17:46

    Unless i'm missing something, I haven't read a convincing argument that makes me think that Caroline Kennedy is a bad choice for Senator.

    There is a lot of emphasis on her name. From what I can tell, the Clinton stature helped to turn our junior senator into an instant force in the senate. The Hillary Clinton experiment worked. We want another junior senator that can be immediately influential. Democrats also don't want a defeat when election time comes. She has a tight relationship with our next President that can only help her to become a major voice. Appoint Brian Higgins, and he will probably be defeated and that will leave us with even less represenation for WNY.

  24. estreet

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    Dec 18th 2008, 22:39

    "estreet - While I agree with you about why a WNY senator wouldn't matter anyway, and about the lousy fact check on Ms. Kennedy's name, your comment has a mistake too about Bloomberg being Republican."

    In my comment I referred to him as a moderate republican, if you wanted to make the argument that this was in error you would have been better off stating that he left the Republicans and became Independent when eyeing the Presidency. The fact is, he has only won election as a Republican and he is aggressively backing the Caroline Kennedy campaign.

  25. sonyactivision

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    Dec 18th 2008, 23:47

    She's only 10,000 gala fundraisers at the Metropolitan Museum away from solving all our problems. Really, she isn't cut out for this racket and Joe Sr. woulda never let his little granddaughter get mixed up with all those swindlers and confidence men on the hill. He had other plans for her: she would be the family spokesperson telling the world that "John John wasn't really with that woman", that they were just "old friends that were uncomfortable meeting in the Governor's mansion."

  26. ToughintheStreets

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    Dec 19th 2008, 09:13

    "The Hillary Clinton experiment worked. We want another junior senator that can be immediately influential."

    Worked for who?! Not WNY. Seriously, what did she do for NYS? Please tell me. What does she know about upstate? Think she'll care? You haven't heard a convincing argument about her being a bad choice? I haven't heard one to convince me shes a good one. She wrote a book? I colored a book once. How bout me? I'd like a shot at the seat.

  27. Colin

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    Dec 19th 2008, 12:27

    The "what has she/he done?" critique of politicians is dumb. First, because what these people have done is a matter of public record. For federal legislators, check thomas.loc.gov -- it's all there. No need for rhetorical questions.

    But beyond that, people seem to think that politicians have some sort of magical powers. They don't -- they legislate. That's their job.

  28. whynot

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    Dec 19th 2008, 13:02

    Colin - They need to do their job, that is the problem. The fact that their lack of performance is a matter of public record is of little consequence, as we continue to elect anyone with name recognition who happens to subscribe to our same party affiliation. The fact that Hoyt, Clinton, Brown, or whomever are ineffective means little to them because they have the backing and the war chest to run for another term, then another, then another. They all say that they are not career politicians until they become career politicians then they say that they have the experience to get the job done. Unfortunately, they won't take the political risks necessary to actually get the job done, so we wind up with mediocrity. Mediocrity is built out of the necessity to continually compromise to meet the whims and needs of every lobbyist and special interest group that funds the war chest and provides the backing to extend the politicians career for a few more years. The system is broken but we continue to support it.

  29. plenish1

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    Dec 19th 2008, 15:20

    Tme to start a local group that is an advocate for Buffalo. Anyone interested. Its time to change things!!!!!!!!

  30. davvid

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    Dec 19th 2008, 17:59

    ToughintheStreets,

    I think a more important question is "what do you want our US Senators to do for WNY?" and "how do you expect them to do that?" Do you want them to "bring home the bacon"? Is this about the distribution of Pork? Or is this about influencing the agenda of our federal government and shaping public policy on a federal level?

    I think the US senator is our representation in federal level debates. They are dealing with a range of issues concerning foreign and domestic policies. I never expect them to do the job of the governer, County Exec or Mayor. So please give specific examples of how you believe a US Senator should act locally. My take is that If we want green jobs--Caroline Kennedy is in agreement with Obama. Press Caroline to make WNY the place where federal dollars are invested or incentives are targeted.

    I think Plenish has the right idea. WNY needs to lobby. Yes, choose someone who can be immediatley influential while they are working in the Senate and then apply an insane amount of pressure to them when they come to our table. If they are ignoring our issues--make a fuss--apply more pressure--embarrass them--build coalitions.

  31. Colin

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    Dec 19th 2008, 22:01

    whynot --

    Their job is to legislate. They do it. You may dislike how they do it, in which case you can vote for someone else.

    I think the problem here really has to do with expectations and promises. We expect politicians to fix things in ways that go beyond their ability to deliver. And a huge part of that is that they promise to do just that. I mean, when Hillary promised to deliver 100k jobs -- or whatever the number was -- I never took it that seriously. Is there really a package of legislation that could deliver those jobs? If it existed, was there any chance of it actually coming to fruition? Probably not on both counts, and I suspect she knew that as well as anyone. But those kind of promises are part of the game.

  32. whynot

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    Dec 19th 2008, 22:18

    Yes, I agree their job is to enact laws, not to take two years off to run for another office, not to accept gifts in exchange for votes from special interest groups and lobbyists, not to make promises to the people that they will make a difference when they know that they cannot.

    Why would Hillary Clinton, or any other politician, make a claim that s/he knows that s/he cannot deliver? Why do we accept that they will spend almost 1/4 of their time in office away from the desk to campaign for another 4 years in office. We accept that our politicians will not do what we expect and our only consolation is that we can bitch about it and hope it changes in the next four years, but we know that it won't.

    Bring Caroline Kennedy into office, she won't do anything while there. As you say, they make speeches and promises that our outside their power to deliver, so why does it matter. It shouldn't matter if it is Caroline Kennedy or Rick Warren. WTF, elect anyone, as long as they "legislate" they are doing fine, right?

  33. wally4416

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    Aug 16th 2009, 22:20

    Wow, Bootleeger Jack's grandaughter visit's buffalo. I'm so not inpressed!!! Honestly, was this story really worth reporting on???

  34. wally4416

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    Aug 16th 2009, 22:21

    Wow, Bootlegger Jack's grandaughter visit's buffalo. I'm so not inpressed!!! Honestly, was this story really worth reporting on???

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