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that Great Arrow buiding is HUGE to say the least. great news for Papa Jakes, BBQ/Brew if it really does happen.

wasnt this the one that was supposed to be built next door to the ghetto...im not CSI but i would think that living in an area like that would deter people

Its really a sad day for ECC. Regardless of whether the County Executives support one, two or three campuses. Providing housing downtown for students would have been a good business decision.

The north campus is landlocked and old and to be honest much to close to NCC. Only the south campus and the downtown campus really have future potential.

The downtown campus would make a great link between the Larkin District and downtown so its sad that this project has been cancelled.

But hey lets keep the pressure on Buffalo State and maybe we can get that same 40% committment to growth that UB has put on the table.

No great loss. the architecture presented in the renderings left a lot to be desired in my opinion.

WHAT A SHOCKER! Not rreally. The "plan" for this structure was weak to begin with. The location is unsafe to say the least. I think the best future for this parcel is a wrecking ball followd by surface parking for students/ballpark.

Knock it down.... Shovel ready

Willie1, the architect was R. J. Reidpath. You would hope that city development can at least expand this far east making this building a perfect spot for more loft apartments.

Chris69: I lobe the good business decision comment, coming from someone who clearly has shown to have close to a bankrupt sense of business acumen.

Let me just give you a business 101 lesson since you clearly are in desperate need it: You don't dictate your terms and conditions to businesses, you provide them with an environment to thrive and succeed while balancing the needs and desires of the community. Your constant rants, although I'm sure well intention, would ultimately compromise a company's ability to make decisions in a predictable environment. Businesses like predictable environments, it helps with planning and growth plans.

"We want jobs on our terms apparently is the mantra around here." It doesn't work that way in the business sector. At least you can say, "I get want here in Buffalo." Like I've said before: ur part of the problem, son.

ECC isnt just the school for dropouts to get their GED or for kids who couldnt get into their choice schools or mid-life advanced education.

ECC is also for parents that cant afford 4 years of private college and housing so they send their kids to ECC to save 2 years tuition out of a 4 year degree

ECC is also a school for kids who did get into their choice college and found that their public school education just didnt give them the study habits or the college level maturity to survive in a challenging and independent environment.

ECC is also for kids who screwed up with to much independence and did to much drinking, drugs etc.

ECC is also for kids that graduate from High School and just dont know what they want to be so they work and go to school until they make a career choice they can commit full time.

In short xmissanthropic....there are many reasons....and for each of those reasons ECC and NCC and GCC are valuable to our community and our kids.

carl malone, ECC is not a business but a ancillary function of government. Only a portion of its funds come from tuition and this is true of most community colleges receiving some municipal/county and/or state funding.

Yes we would like to have the efficiency of a business at our community colleges and they do a pretty good job. However, because they receive government funds... they are also rife with patronage and union arbitration just as public schools. In a sense a community college is closer to a baseball stadium...if a politician reaches into their patronage appointments on the board of directors and says built it.....guess what....it gets built....and your so called business plan is more of a marketing tool skewed to say whatever the politician of the day says.

Lastly, what I stated was an opinion not a business decision. You cannot expect me to put forward a business decision without having been presented all the proprietary information.

I am waiting for some jerk that "doesn't know any better" becuase they move out of their parents house when they were 31, to tell me that I don't know what I am talking about.

RisingDamp666 - do you drive a subaru hatch back, have A cups, make 27k/year and live with your parents Depew?

Well that warehouse still has potential....has anyone thought that instead of using it for dorm residences they could gut that warehouse and use it for additional classrooms and since its shaped like an L they could add a nice atrium. They could put teachers offices on floor 5 & 6 with classrooms on the 1-4 which would lower the wear on the elevators.

That still leaves dorm rooms.....well what about those cotton picking slave shacks owned by Buffalo Municipal housing. Sell them to ECC for dorm room and replace those units with rental vouchers, new mixed income housing in areas closer to transportation and jobs.

I say this because there is a significant area between Seneca and Swan where ECC downtown campus growth should be encouraged. Furthermore, there is a significant area between Michigan and Hamburg that would act as a filler between downtown and the Larkin District with two added significance. Michigan and Spring Street will take you right to the Medical Corridor while Jefferson will take you to Canisius.

ECC should emulate UB Amherst Campus and create a spine between Seneca and Swan which would do the best good for downtown, the Larkin District, ECC and the surrounding community.

The more I think of it....that warehouse would make great space for classrooms and teacher offices.

Yeah, a consolidated ECC headquatered Downtown was a very strong and distinct possibility until Joel drank his lethal red-green brew. Now the whineyass suburban administrators who predicted endless robberies followed by endless empty Downtown Campus classrooms if such a consolidation ever took place can rest easy knowing that the suburban students are reinforcing their myopic regional vision as opposed to being overwhelmed by the number of surface parking lots around the Downtown campus to park their highly secured vehicles. All that said, I think the ECC Downtown Campus should partner with the Buffalo-Niagara Medical Campus so that there can be internships, courses that are the result of ECC-BNMC joint collaberation for the purposes of having ECC students ready to fil job opportunites and more....

Yeah, a consolidated ECC headquatered Downtown was a very strong and distinct possibility until Joel drank his lethal red-green brew. Now the whineyass suburban administrators who predicted endless robberies followed by endless empty Downtown Campus classrooms if such a consolidation ever took place can rest easy knowing that the suburban students are reinforcing their myopic regional vision as opposed to being overwhelmed by the number of surface parking lots around the Downtown campus to park their highly secured vehicles. All that said, I think the ECC Downtown Campus should partner with the Buffalo-Niagara Medical Campus so that there can be internships, courses that are the result of ECC-BNMC joint collaberation for the purposes of having ECC students ready to fil job opportunites and more....

Gaustad- best comment on here in quite a while, LMFAO.

SteveP - the pleasure is all mine