Cobblestone Shadows Toronto's Distillery District

Cobblestone Shadows Toronto's Distillery District

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One of the fringe benefits of heading to Toronto yesterday was meeting up with a group of urban planners in the Distillery District. Some of the members of the Buffalo contingent had never witnessed the transformation that has taken place in that part of the city. A few years ago I would have been very envious of the district, but during this visit I felt nothing but inspiration. Buffalo's Cobblestone District has come a long way - that much is certain. Of course the Cobblestone District is a long way towards achieving the same success as the Distillery District, but Rome wasn't built in a day either.

I guess it was due to recent conversations that I've had with Councilman David Franczyk that it dawned on me how fortunate we are. Even though many of the old buildings in that district were demolished (just look at the old maps), we still have the basis for building towards something that will, one day, be very exciting. David was one of the people responsible for securing the remaining building parcels when they were in jeopardy of being demolished (most likely for HSBC parking). Of course there are still vast parking lots to contend with... and a mostly vacant DL&W Terminal... and an infill problem, but the bones are there. We're fortunate enough to have the Sabres playing, and concerts hosted, just a block away from where Dennis Brinkworth has opened Morrissey's Irish Pub (in an old truck terminal). Developer Sam Savarino now has his four-storey former ice house fully occupied (corner of South Park and Mississippi) and is on his (along with Avalon Development) way to seeing the 5-storey sister building (corner of Perry and Mississippi) fully occupied as well. The Cobblestone Bar (corner of South Park and Mississippi) has become a regular watering hole for Sabres' fans, and on Michigan Street the Swannie House still functions as a 'best kept secret' eatery and pub. Even The Malamute Tavern on South Park adds to the Cobblestone's character (just don't ring the ship bell above the bar). Think back to when it all started with the Elk Street Terminal lofts... people said that Obletz was crazy. For a couple of years IBC digital has called the converted terminal home. Milo's diner opened up - a neat little place to grab some good, cheap food. The diner is right across from where the downtown Seneca Casino is to be built (like it or not). Let's not forget The Cotter fireboat and the historic grain elevators.

Next summer visitors will be able to walk across the Whipple Truss Bridge while exploring the Inner Harbor. We're still waiting to hear what will become of the Bunnytown buildings, but in order to gain speed, the vacant brick structures on Illinois Street need to get straightened out. It would be nice to see a plan put in place for the vacant parking lots... The BSC Group, Cannon Design, The City of Buffalo and Empire State Development have been looking at the potential building envelopes (converting parking to structures - more on that later). There has been momentum, and I would think that it would behoove anyone who is interested in The Cobblestone District to pay a visit to the Distillery District. With the right decisions being made, we could be a lot closer to something as awesome in years to come.

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  1. Spaulding97

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    Dec 14th 2007, 15:05

    Any news on the Arctic Freezer building in the Cobblestone? Wasn't that supposed to be converted into condos?

  2. TownLine

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    Dec 14th 2007, 16:26

    Right on Newell. I think when the parcels in the inner harbor get scouped rather quickly, the cobblestone will be the natural continuation of that development. Probably 5 years down the road, cobblestone will be ripe for a development boom.

  3. chris69

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    Dec 14th 2007, 16:51

    the future of downtown isnt downtown but the cobblestone and larkin districts. The sooner developers reallize this the sooner they will stop battling to demolish the remaining historic downtown buildings for parking lots and shovel ready sites.

  4. sbrof

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    Dec 14th 2007, 17:29

    You forget that the major difference between Toronto and Buffalo's districts are Toronto actually has BUILDINGS left.. We here were progressive and demolished everything.

    They are not developing from empty parking lots they have a whole district of buildings. We have a single block and that is it. Sorry to say but our cobblestone can never ever compare to their distillery district for that reason alone. The best we can hope for is some new flashy architecture with the cool contrast of cobblestone roads.

  5. RaChaCha

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    Dec 14th 2007, 17:46

    I love the Cobblestone District - fortunately I don't have to go on at length about why, as Queenseyes lays it all out. I would note that once you try the fish fry at the Swannie House, or one of their steak sandwiches with a piece of steak big enough to put on your backyard grille, you'll frequently find yourself making tracks to the Cobblestone District for that alone.

    But one add: don't forget the fine folks at Nicholson & Hall, who have been an anchor in the district for decades, and have stuck it out there through good times and bad. They do commercial boiler work, and located there originally to service the "winter fleet" of lake vessels that would harbor nearby in the Buffalo River during the close of shipping on the lakes. Although the decline in shipping after the opening of the Seaway led them to seek out new markets for their work (recognized in the industry as top notch), their presence is a reminder of Buffalo's waterfront heritage - and that there is still plenty of good industrial muscle left in Buffalo's economy. They're also good neighbors in the best tradition - occasionally pitching in to plow nearby streets with their own equipment, and supporting the amazing effort to re-lay the eponymous cobblestone pavers throughout the district.

    In my humble opinion, tenacious and excellent companies like Nicholson & Hall - and their people - represent true Buffalo at her finest!

  6. wizardofza

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    Dec 14th 2007, 18:01

    more like.....Cobblestone PARKING District

    sbrof explains it pretty well.

  7. RisingDamp666

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    Dec 14th 2007, 19:16

    Ya gotta do something..if "flashy new architecture" is all us poor souls are left with, then so be it.

  8. ntdrew

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    Dec 14th 2007, 19:25

    Cobblestone parking district describes it all, there is like 1 block of bldgs. left, how is that considered a district? its a shame we tear down the good buildings and leave the garbage delapated ones.

    Anyone notice that nice tower going up in the backgroud, must be niceq! We'd still be waiting on lawsuits and what not

  9. AvaRouge

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    Dec 14th 2007, 19:42

    Thanks ntdrew for pointing out that big condo going up in the background...I nearly missed it until you commented on it!

  10. DumpsterKid

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    Dec 15th 2007, 00:26

    There are a lot of nice and possibly ugly condo towers lining the waterfront in Toronto, they're plentiful, but does everyone like them? I wonder if there is a connection between the lack of native Torontonians and lawsuits counter to native Buffalonians and our lawsuits. Perhaps we care too much? what does this say about our pride and lack of progress?

  11. wizardofza

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    Dec 15th 2007, 02:23

    Yes, Toronto is a can-do city. They built tall and modern without so much as shedding a sweat. As a result, median income professionals can actually afford to live downtown, as opposed to somewhere like San Francisco where NIMBY/preservation nazis prevent anything from being built that's "out of scale" with the sacred 1890s-1910-era historic fabric. Because of that only millionaires can now afford to comfortably live in SF's urban core.

  12. Buffalopundit

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    Dec 15th 2007, 19:34

    They were selling 1BR condos in that Distillery tower for about CDN$180,000 at pre-construction prices, back when the dollar was stronger than the loonie. They're absolutely stunning and are now going for significantly more.

  13. Spaulding97

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    Dec 17th 2007, 11:15

    $180K, wasn't there people on this site saying that those prices are impossible here? "For under $200K would never work, the developer would loose money and it wouldn't be worth it." BS

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