The Livery, Sunday

The Livery, Sunday

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Today, just as we were finishing up brunch at Nektar, a car pulled up and out stepped a somewhat dusty Commissioner of Economic Development and Permit and Inspection Services Rich Tobe, wearing a blue hardhat. An hour and a half late to join his party, Rich spared me a few moments for questions.

He'd just come from Jersey Street, and said Judge Gorski had passed an injunction on the demolition of the livery stable pending a hearing in appellate court in Rochester tomorrow. Rich said they had done some work on the building, removing a good portion of the roof and more of the eastern wall. He said they caused the weaker parts of the upper walls to fall inward to avoid damage to the immediate homes on either side. Then I had to let him run.

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Next I headed over to Jersey Street. A new (since Friday) chainlink fence had gone up around the structure owned by Robert and Nina Freudenheim through Leopold LLC. Paul Morgan--an avid advocate of preservation, to say the least--was sitting vigil with a clipboard full of signatures from citizens opposed to the demolition. "Fan them out like cards, Paul," Doug called to him. Doug, who lives across from the livery preferred that we not use his last name, but he is in part responsible for the Save the Livery web page that cropped up late last week, chronicling the events surrounding building's fate.

"There are about a dozen of us working hard to stop this, and Kitty Herrick is doing a great job," Morgan said. "You know what I'd like? I'd like to know who paid for the demolition of Wadsworth," he said, referring to the recently demolished Falcon Building at 7 Wadsworth, not a quarter of a mile from the livery, that was also owned by Robert and Nina Freudenheim. "Do you know what the name of the exhibit at her gallery is right now?" Morgan asked. "Picture Nothing," he answered, waiting for the irony to sink in.

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Morgan explained that some of the bowing on the west side of the livery had occured during the heavy rains we had Friday night. He corroburated what Rich Tobe had said about the failed trusses allowing the very heavy struts to let go, which ultimately caused the structural damage that occured earlier last week. "If they had just secured the roof," Morgan said, "the wood wouldn't have weathered and rotted to this point."

City building inspector Donald Grzebieluchia showed up next with his wife in tow. They walked around the chain link and looked at the building. Grzebieluchia is taking a scheduled week's vacation this week, leaving his partner, Larry Schiavone, to stay on top of the developments in the livery case. I asked Grzebieluchia how the building was allowed to get to this point of disrepair, and he answered that he and Schiavone are called in after the fact on emergency cases like this. "That's not us," he said. We get called in after as demolition and emergency response inspectors. Our job is to evaluate and rectify a situation to see that no life is in danger, like when a vehicle hits a building, and this."

east%20today.jpg East side of the livery today.

Schiavone showed up on cue, out for a drive with his wife. His opinion of the livery is that it's probably not salvageable. "One cupola is completely gone. The front section is in really bad shape," Schiavone said. "It's still not safe even though they stopped us. We cut the roof, but it's still pretty scary." When I asked if the back portion of the building could be saved, he answered no, adding, "It's in bad shape."

"There's still a 10-foot section of slate roof up there that must weigh about 900 pounds," Grzebieluchia said. "I think if you go on Google Earth and go to 430 Jersey, you can still see shards of the roofing paper that was put up a long time ago to try to protect the building." Then Grzebieluchia turned to his partner and said," If you're going to have to go to Rochester tomorrow, somebody ought to call you and let you know soon."

east%20Friday.jpg East side of livery on Friday.

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What Others Have To Say

  1. platt4

    3 ratings12345
    Jun 15th 2008, 20:46

    Adios old gal. Somewhere tonight Bob Freudenstein is laughing at the taxpaying public who will be footing the bill for his neglegence. Cheers City Hall!

  2. platt4

    4 ratings12345
    Jun 15th 2008, 20:48

    And don't take it from the bobble-head inspectors. The front of the building can be saved. Just a question of determination and money; something lacking in these parts.

  3. stephenjames716

    1 ratings12345
    Jun 15th 2008, 21:52

    what a shame

  4. KLW

    3 ratings12345
    Jun 15th 2008, 21:59

    I'd like to thank Elena for taking the time to report the updates on this building.

    Please continue to check savethelivery.com - there is now an opportunity to donate to this cause. Donations are needed to support the funding of attorney fees, filing fees, and bonding.

    You are all making a difference - our call for assistance is more urgent now than ever!!

  5. blackrocklifer

    5 ratings12345
    Jun 15th 2008, 22:18

    This great building could be saved, and it has the advantage of being in an area that has value. Lets hope this is not another demo-by-neglect.

  6. Sundial

    0 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 00:33

    What's the benefit to the Freudenheim's to let the building go like this? There must be an insurance payoff for them to let it deteriorate.

  7. Colin

    0 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 01:44

    Sundial,

    I think it's simpler than that. An empty lot is taxed at a lower rate, it may be easier to sell, and it relieves them of the costs associated with any pretense of maintaining the building. They benefit and we pay the price.

  8. Biniszkiewicz

    4 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 08:22

    This neglectful and destructive ownership is tragic for this once fine structure. I'd love for the facade to be salvaged, but I wouldn't bet on it; not such a cheap proposition.

    But though Freudenheim is an ass, insurance and lower taxes weren't the motivation. Insurance won't pay for destruction caused by neglect. If regular maintenance isn't practiced, insurance refuses to compensate. Also, the idea that this demo by neglect was purposeful in order to lower the taxes does not wash. Freudenheim had offers on the building which would have netted him considerably more than the vacant land will (plus there will be a demo lien attached to the property). No, Freudenheim lost out financially from this disaster. That does not absolve him.

    This was simply a case of a seller refusing to invest capital required and also refusing to leave a dime on the negotiating table. Many, many real estate deals are quashed by one party or the other fearing they are being taken advantage of. A seller who markets a property but refuses all offers is afraid they're leaving money on the table. Too bad for Buffalo that this particular landlord was both unreasonable and penny pinching.

  9. tommyBluez

    2 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 08:53

    We don't need anymore "Shovel Ready Sites" to sit empty in Buffalo!

  10. dudedude

    0 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 09:24

    stopped over this morning about 7:45 and nothing has happened yet other than Mr. Frudenheim hangin around getting yelled at by concerned citizens. he states that he is footing the bill for the demo and that it was an unfortunate situation facilitated by the failure of a ceiling beam that had rotted in a place that the inspectors could not have possibly seen.

  11. AvaRouge

    1 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 09:36

    You didn't happen to hear Frudyduddy say it was his fault for not maintaining the building did you?

  12. EricOak

    1 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 10:06

    Why can't at least the facade be saved? That's the most important part.

  13. Wit

    1 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 10:18

    Of course he's footing the bill. Property owners are charged for the costs of emergency demos as well. Are we supposed to believe that this was an act of generosity on his part?

  14. Olcott_Beach

    1 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 10:31

    “I asked Grzebieluchia how the building was allowed to get to this point of disrepair, and he answered that he and Schiavone are called in after the fact on emergency cases like this. "That's not us," he said. We get called in after as demolition and emergency response inspectors. Our job is to evaluate and rectify a situation to see that no life is in danger, like when a vehicle hits a building, and this."

    Pun not intended but isn’t this the proverbial “closing the barn door after the horse is gone” and, just for the record, do either of these gentlemen have a degree in Structural Engineering or even Structural Design?

    Somehow, I doubt it but I bet their salaries are six-figures….

  15. NBJOHN

    1 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 11:48

    Seems like for every win or two, there is a loss....

    What is next on the deathlist? Main street Allentown building? (not sure of the name of it)

  16. sally

    3 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 12:27

    What a sad day for Buffalo if this diamond in the rough is lost!!!

  17. winfield31

    1 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 12:54

    in reply to "olcott" , as per City of Buffalo Building Inspector's wages , the two building inspector's TOGETHER DO NOT make 6 figures !

  18. dudedude

    0 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 16:11

    who do you contact about buying some of the bricks that are going to be knocked down?

  19. dudedude

    0 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 16:11

    who do you contact about buying some of the bricks that are going to be knocked down?

  20. Colin

    0 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 16:18

    I'd call BuffaloReuse to see if they have any intention of getting involved.

  21. buffaloed

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    Jun 16th 2008, 17:51

    The building is no longer stable to enter for anyone to deconstruct piecemeal. People should most likely scavenge the pile when the building is removed. The building is also most likely too large for ReUse; the usually work on smaller 2-3 story residences.

  22. Andrew

    0 ratings12345
    Jun 16th 2008, 21:51

    yes why cant they save the facade like they did with that gas building where blue cross blue shield is now?

  23. winfield31

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    Jun 16th 2008, 22:29

    I think the Blue Cross/Shield Building looks hideous , not because of the saved facade , which loooks great (I believe Hogan Restoration did the nice work ?) , but because the new building's exterior was not even faintly attempted to "mirror" the original facade , & they could have.............

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